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  • One day you’re Prime Minister, next morning it’s over

    - Jan Peter Balkenende, Dutch Prime Minister from 2002 till 2010, received an honorary doctorate from Hofstra University in New York. ScienceGuide was on the spot and conducted an exclusive interview with him about his new job at Ernst and Young, his view on the current government led by Prime Minister Mark Rutte and the recent discussions on funding Higher Education in the Netherlands.

    On the 22nd of May, former Prime Minister of the Netherlands Jan Peter Balkenende received an honorary doctorate from Hofstra University in New York, recognizing his achievements in policymaking on "social security and deregulation." ScienceGuide was given the opportunity to conduct an exclusive interview with Prof. dr. Balkenende, who reflected on his decade in European politics and his future as strategist at a major international consultancy firm.

    Take your responsibility

    Dressed in the traditional Hofstra blue gown, Balkenende addressed hundreds of graduate students, their families and friends during the Commencement ceremony in a basketball hall. In his speech he mentioned the strong ties the Netherlands had with the USA and especially with Hofstra, a university in New York State founded by Dutch immigrants in 1935. He urged all graduates to go out into the world and "take their responsibility" as intellectuals living in a fast paced world of change and technological progress. Especially now it would be important for them to see themselves as part of a greater community and as world citizens creating a better future for coming generations.

    Getting an honorary doctorate from Hofstra, Balkenende finds himself among fine company. Earlier awardees are for instance former general and then president-to-be Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1950, dr. Martin Luther King in 1965, Alfred Heineken in 1996 and president Bill Clinton in 2005. For Balkenende it is his 4th honorary doctorate, after earlier laud from universities in Budapest, Tokio and Seoul.

    ScienceGuide editor Tim-Patrick Limmer, a German student from the LearningLab of the University of Amsterdam, spoke with Balkenende during his exchange studies at Hofstra. ScienceGuide highly appreciates the willingness of both Hofstra University and Balkenende for the opportunity to conduct this interview on such a special occasion.

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    Doha, Singapore, Davos

    You were Prime Minister of the Netherlands during an incredibly eventful decade, both in your country and in Europe as a whole. Now, you have a very different job with Ernst & Young. Let me ask you bluntly: what is it exactly that you're doing in your new position?

    In essence, my new job is made up of three elements. First of all, I support the top management of Ernst & Young on international strategic issues. I give them my advice while they are preparing their position or statements on international developments and important meetings. Think of the Doha Round on international trade agreements, but also the meetings of the G20 or the Davos conferences of the World Economic Forum. This is my internal function in our firm.

    The second major part of my work has to do with the emphasis on corporate responsibility as an important aspect of our work. For instance, we have to be very alert on corporate responsibility issues in advices Ernst & Young gives when it comes to auditing and advices on firms´ tax policies. We support our client to become active on this theme. The other day for instance, I was in Singapore for meetings with the CEOs of client firms for whom this is a major policy question. On this issue I will also be active in the media, giving my views and experience in this field.

    The third part of my new job concerns helping our clients in the development of their worldwide strategy and relationships. For example, I can give them background knowledge and know-how on how to be successfully active in developing countries.

    Next to Ernst & Young you have made a comeback as a university professor as well!

    Indeed! I will be lecturing at the Erasmus University Rotterdam on governance, preferably good governance..…

    One week off

    You could look at your new positions at Ernst & Young and the EUR as a very challenging situation, also for yourself personally. Having been a Prime Minister for almost a decade, do you feel you had to reinvent yourself?

    Well, let me put this in the right order. It is indeed a cut in your life when something like this, the collapse of your cabinet, happens. Our government fell, as you probably know, over disagreements with the Social Democrats (PvdA) concerning our role in Afghanistan and our future involvement. This is politics, you know? On Friday you're Prime Minister, the next morning it is over.

    So then the moment of transition came, with Mark Rutte creating a new government coalition. As elections and negotiations were held during the summer, I had to prepare another fiscal budget. So when Rutte took over, I had a lot to inform him about. For instance, concerning the budgetary measures we had prepared and in some cases already taken. Another important element of the transition was the background information I had to give him on major international issues such as the agenda of the Dutch government for the next G20 meeting.

    In October last year I left my office in The Hague. Right after that the annual autumn holidays for schools started. So my family and I took a week off to relax and enjoy being together. After that, during November, I had my first talk with the people from Ernst & Young.

    As Prime Minister you installed the first Innovation Platform in which government ministers, top scientists and representatives from industry developed a long-term innovation strategy for the Netherlands. In that context, do you see links between your new job at Ernst & Young and the way you worked earlier?

    Well, yes I do. The theme of corporate responsibility has been part of my earlier work and publications, even when I was a professor at the Vrije Universiteit before I got involved in national politics. The same holds for my work at the policy analysis institute of the Christian Democratic Party (CDA).

    Move on!

    Looking back at the last decade, I can honestly say that I had a great time being Prime Minister. It was very rewarding to be able to do such important work for my country. But at the same time you have to be aware of what I said before: "on Friday you're Prime Minister, the next morning it's over". So when this happens and you have another opportunity to do interesting work, I say: move on!

    Someone else also moved on: Mark Rutte. In 2004, he was junior minister of Higher Education within your second government. You met and worked with him as his Prime Minister during those days. Did you already see his potential back then? Did you help him to develop his political talent?

    We have our differences. Still, we kept a good relationship. Remember that Mark Rutte once said "I am a fan of Jan Peter Balkenende".

    You know, in politics you never know how things will work out. When Rutte had to compete with Rita Verdonk for the leadership of the Liberal Party (VVD) this was the case as well: you never know what will happen. After he won that party contest Rutte really had difficult times at the beginning.

    Now, he doesn't have an easy job either. Policymaking is hard. For instance, the necessary reform to make the labor market more flexible is not moving ahead because of the Freedom Party (PVV) blocking any initiative.

    Life Long Learning a must

    In your government Mark Rutte was very active in introducing a new way of financing Higher Education through the concept of leerrechten [Higher Education vouchers for students]. This was an idea that you supported very strongly. Do you still think that this would be the best approach towards the future of Higher Education funding in the Netherlands?

    I have always had a positive opinion of the leerrechten concept! It is very useful when you think of the fact that societies all have to move towards a system of life-long learning. This calls both for investments from public means and for individuals to invest in themselves. A system of leerrechten could be a great concept to realize this.

    Let me add one more thing here: this investing in life-long learning is not just a responsibility for the government, the educational system of universities and hogescholen and for individual citizens. It is really important that industry and corporations also step in and take their responsibility as well.

    Now, when it comes to the funding of Higher Education I guess you probably want to ask me about my thoughts on the 'langstudeerboete' [the controversial penalty for overdue students]. So maybe we should conclude our talk here. Allow me not to be too involved in the current discussion on Higher Education policies!